diff --git a/packages/core/pattern.mjs b/packages/core/pattern.mjs
index f2bbf069d..d8bbf6300 100644
--- a/packages/core/pattern.mjs
+++ b/packages/core/pattern.mjs
@@ -2405,7 +2405,7 @@ export const { echoWith, echowith, stutWith, stutwith } = register(
  * s("bd sd").echo(3, 1/6, .8)
  */
 export const echo = register('echo', function (times, time, feedback, pat) {
-  return pat._echoWith(times, time, (pat, i) => pat.gain(Math.pow(feedback, i)));
+  return pat._echoForEach(times, time, (pat, i) => pat.gain(Math.pow(feedback, i)));
 });
 
 /**
@@ -2418,7 +2418,7 @@ export const echo = register('echo', function (times, time, feedback, pat) {
  * s("bd sd").stut(3, .8, 1/6)
  */
 export const stut = register('stut', function (times, feedback, time, pat) {
-  return pat._echoWith(times, time, (pat, i) => pat.gain(Math.pow(feedback, i)));
+  return pat._echoForEach(times, time, (pat, i) => pat.gain(Math.pow(feedback, i)));
 });
 
 export const applyN = register('applyN', function (n, func, p) {
diff --git a/test/__snapshots__/examples.test.mjs.snap b/test/__snapshots__/examples.test.mjs.snap
index 46359b620..22d324027 100644
--- a/test/__snapshots__/examples.test.mjs.snap
+++ b/test/__snapshots__/examples.test.mjs.snap
@@ -3301,20 +3301,28 @@ exports[`runs examples > example "echo" example index 0 1`] = `
 ]
 `;
 
+exports[`runs examples > example "echoForEach" example index 0 1`] = `[]`;
+
 exports[`runs examples > example "echoWith" example index 0 1`] = `
 [
   "[ -3/8 ⇜ (0/1 → 1/8) | note:Bb3 ]",
-  "[ -1/4 ⇜ (0/1 → 1/4) | note:D4 ]",
-  "[ -1/8 ⇜ (0/1 → 3/8) | note:F4 ]",
+  "[ -1/4 ⇜ (0/1 → 1/8) ⇝ 1/4 | note:D4 ]",
+  "[ -1/8 ⇜ (0/1 → 1/8) ⇝ 3/8 | note:F4 ]",
   "[ 0/1 → 1/1 | note:C3 ]",
+  "[ -1/4 ⇜ (1/8 → 1/4) | note:D4 ]",
+  "[ -1/8 ⇜ (1/8 → 1/4) ⇝ 3/8 | note:F4 ]",
   "[ (1/8 → 1/1) ⇝ 9/8 | note:Eb3 ]",
+  "[ -1/8 ⇜ (1/4 → 3/8) | note:F4 ]",
   "[ (1/4 → 1/1) ⇝ 5/4 | note:G3 ]",
   "[ (3/8 → 1/1) ⇝ 11/8 | note:Bb3 ]",
   "[ 1/8 ⇜ (1/1 → 9/8) | note:Eb3 ]",
-  "[ 1/4 ⇜ (1/1 → 5/4) | note:G3 ]",
-  "[ 3/8 ⇜ (1/1 → 11/8) | note:Bb3 ]",
+  "[ 1/4 ⇜ (1/1 → 9/8) ⇝ 5/4 | note:G3 ]",
+  "[ 3/8 ⇜ (1/1 → 9/8) ⇝ 11/8 | note:Bb3 ]",
   "[ 1/1 → 3/2 | note:Eb3 ]",
+  "[ 1/4 ⇜ (9/8 → 5/4) | note:G3 ]",
+  "[ 3/8 ⇜ (9/8 → 5/4) ⇝ 11/8 | note:Bb3 ]",
   "[ 9/8 → 13/8 | note:G3 ]",
+  "[ 3/8 ⇜ (5/4 → 11/8) | note:Bb3 ]",
   "[ 5/4 → 7/4 | note:Bb3 ]",
   "[ 11/8 → 15/8 | note:D4 ]",
   "[ 3/2 → 2/1 | note:G3 ]",
@@ -3322,17 +3330,23 @@ exports[`runs examples > example "echoWith" example index 0 1`] = `
   "[ (7/4 → 2/1) ⇝ 9/4 | note:D4 ]",
   "[ (15/8 → 2/1) ⇝ 19/8 | note:F4 ]",
   "[ 13/8 ⇜ (2/1 → 17/8) | note:Bb3 ]",
-  "[ 7/4 ⇜ (2/1 → 9/4) | note:D4 ]",
-  "[ 15/8 ⇜ (2/1 → 19/8) | note:F4 ]",
+  "[ 7/4 ⇜ (2/1 → 17/8) ⇝ 9/4 | note:D4 ]",
+  "[ 15/8 ⇜ (2/1 → 17/8) ⇝ 19/8 | note:F4 ]",
   "[ 2/1 → 3/1 | note:C3 ]",
+  "[ 7/4 ⇜ (17/8 → 9/4) | note:D4 ]",
+  "[ 15/8 ⇜ (17/8 → 9/4) ⇝ 19/8 | note:F4 ]",
   "[ (17/8 → 3/1) ⇝ 25/8 | note:Eb3 ]",
+  "[ 15/8 ⇜ (9/4 → 19/8) | note:F4 ]",
   "[ (9/4 → 3/1) ⇝ 13/4 | note:G3 ]",
   "[ (19/8 → 3/1) ⇝ 27/8 | note:Bb3 ]",
   "[ 17/8 ⇜ (3/1 → 25/8) | note:Eb3 ]",
-  "[ 9/4 ⇜ (3/1 → 13/4) | note:G3 ]",
-  "[ 19/8 ⇜ (3/1 → 27/8) | note:Bb3 ]",
+  "[ 9/4 ⇜ (3/1 → 25/8) ⇝ 13/4 | note:G3 ]",
+  "[ 19/8 ⇜ (3/1 → 25/8) ⇝ 27/8 | note:Bb3 ]",
   "[ 3/1 → 7/2 | note:Eb3 ]",
+  "[ 9/4 ⇜ (25/8 → 13/4) | note:G3 ]",
+  "[ 19/8 ⇜ (25/8 → 13/4) ⇝ 27/8 | note:Bb3 ]",
   "[ 25/8 → 29/8 | note:G3 ]",
+  "[ 19/8 ⇜ (13/4 → 27/8) | note:Bb3 ]",
   "[ 13/4 → 15/4 | note:Bb3 ]",
   "[ 27/8 → 31/8 | note:D4 ]",
   "[ 7/2 → 4/1 | note:G3 ]",
diff --git a/website/src/repl/tunes.mjs b/website/src/repl/tunes.mjs
index f1c72b12d..bdae9b33e 100644
--- a/website/src/repl/tunes.mjs
+++ b/website/src/repl/tunes.mjs
@@ -285,7 +285,7 @@ stack(
  .mul(gain(sine.struct("x*8").add(3/5).mul(2/5).fast(8)))
  .piano()`;
 
-// iter, echo, echoWith
+// iter, echo, echoForEach
 export const undergroundPlumber = `// "Underground plumber"
 // @license CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/
 // @by Felix Roos
@@ -307,7 +307,7 @@ stack(
   .cutoff(400).decay(.12).sustain(0)
   ,
   "[g2,[c3 eb3]]".iter(4)
-  .echoWith(4, 1/8, (x,n)=>x.transpose(n*12).gain(Math.pow(.4,n)))
+  .echoForEach(4, 1/8, (x,n)=>x.transpose(n*12).gain(Math.pow(.4,n)))
   .note().layer(h)
   .clip(.1)
 )
@@ -432,7 +432,7 @@ export const festivalOfFingers3 = `// "Festival of fingers 3"
 setcps(1)
 
 n("[-7*3],0,2,6,[8 7]")
-  .echoWith(
+  .echoForEach(
     4, // echo 4 times
     1/4, // 1/4s between echos
     (x,i)=>x
@@ -485,7 +485,7 @@ stack(
   .decay(.1).sustain(0) // make notes short
   .s('triangle') // waveform
   .degradeBy(perlin.range(0,.5)) // randomly controlled random removal :)
-  .echoWith(4,.125,(x,n)=>x.gain(.15*1/(n+1))) // echo notes
+  .echoForEach(4,.125,(x,n)=>x.gain(.15*1/(n+1))) // echo notes
   //.hush()
 )
   .slow(3/2)`;