diff --git a/packages/superdough/helpers.mjs b/packages/superdough/helpers.mjs
index baa4db25e..ed2c0c448 100644
--- a/packages/superdough/helpers.mjs
+++ b/packages/superdough/helpers.mjs
@@ -240,6 +240,7 @@ export function createFilter(context, start, end, params, cps, cycle) {
     rate = cps * sync;
   }
   const hasLFO = [depth, depthfrequency, skew, shape, rate].some((v) => v !== undefined);
+  let lfo;
   if (hasLFO) {
     depth = depth ?? 1;
     const time = cycle / cps;
@@ -255,10 +256,10 @@ export function createFilter(context, start, end, params, cps, cycle) {
       time,
       curve: 1,
     };
-    getParamLfo(context, frequencyParam, start, end, lfoValues);
+    lfo = getParamLfo(context, frequencyParam, start, end, lfoValues);
   }
 
-  return filter;
+  return { filter, lfo };
 }
 
 // stays 1 until .5, then fades out
diff --git a/packages/superdough/superdough.mjs b/packages/superdough/superdough.mjs
index d4a10531b..03d56bc2a 100644
--- a/packages/superdough/superdough.mjs
+++ b/packages/superdough/superdough.mjs
@@ -287,7 +287,7 @@ export function connectToDestination(input, channels) {
 
 function getPhaser(time, end, frequency = 1, depth = 0.5, centerFrequency = 1000, sweep = 2000) {
   const ac = getAudioContext();
-  const lfoGain = getLfo(ac, time, end, { frequency, depth: sweep * 2 });
+  const lfo = getLfo(ac, time, end, { frequency, depth: sweep * 2 });
 
   //filters
   const numStages = 2; //num of filters in series
@@ -300,14 +300,14 @@ function getPhaser(time, end, frequency = 1, depth = 0.5, centerFrequency = 1000
     filter.frequency.value = centerFrequency + fOffset;
     filter.Q.value = 2 - Math.min(Math.max(depth * 2, 0), 1.9);
 
-    lfoGain.connect(filter.detune);
+    lfo.connect(filter.detune);
     fOffset += 282;
     if (i > 0) {
       filterChain[i - 1].connect(filter);
     }
     filterChain.push(filter);
   }
-  return filterChain[filterChain.length - 1];
+  return { phaser: filterChain[filterChain.length - 1], lfo };
 }
 
 function getFilterType(ftype) {
@@ -413,7 +413,7 @@ export const superdough = async (value, t, hapDuration, cps = 0.5, cycle = 0.5)
     release = 0,
 
     //phaser
-    phaserrate: phaser,
+    phaserrate,
     phaserdepth = getDefaultValue('phaserdepth'),
     phasersweep,
     phasercenter,
@@ -560,10 +560,14 @@ export const superdough = async (value, t, hapDuration, cps = 0.5, cycle = 0.5)
     };
     const lpParams = pickAndRename(value, lpMap);
     lpParams.type = 'lowpass';
-    let lp = () => createFilter(ac, t, end, lpParams, cps, cycle);
-    chain.push(lp());
+    const lp = () => createFilter(ac, t, end, lpParams, cps, cycle);
+    const { filter: lpf1, lfo: lfo1 } = lp();
+    chain.push(lpf1);
+    lfo1 && audioNodes.push(lfo1);
     if (ftype === '24db') {
-      chain.push(lp());
+      const { filter: lpf2, lfo: lfo2 } = lp();
+      chain.push(lpf2);
+      lfo2 && audioNodes.push(lfo2);
     }
   }
 
@@ -589,10 +593,14 @@ export const superdough = async (value, t, hapDuration, cps = 0.5, cycle = 0.5)
     };
     const hpParams = pickAndRename(value, hpMap);
     hpParams.type = 'highpass';
-    let hp = () => createFilter(ac, t, end, hpParams, cps, cycle);
-    chain.push(hp());
+    const hp = () => createFilter(ac, t, end, hpParams, cps, cycle);
+    const { filter: hpf1, lfo: lfo1 } = hp();
+    chain.push(hpf1);
+    lfo1 && audioNodes.push(lfo1);
     if (ftype === '24db') {
-      chain.push(hp());
+      const { filter: hpf2, lfo: lfo2 } = hp();
+      chain.push(hpf2);
+      lfo2 && audioNodes.push(lfo2);
     }
   }
 
@@ -618,10 +626,14 @@ export const superdough = async (value, t, hapDuration, cps = 0.5, cycle = 0.5)
     };
     const bpParams = pickAndRename(value, bpMap);
     bpParams.type = 'bandpass';
-    let bp = () => createFilter(ac, t, end, bpParams, cps, cycle);
-    chain.push(bp());
+    const bp = () => createFilter(ac, t, end, bpParams, cps, cycle);
+    const { filter: bpf1, lfo: lfo1 } = bp();
+    chain.push(bpf1);
+    lfo1 && audioNodes.push(lfo1);
     if (ftype === '24db') {
-      chain.push(bp());
+      const { filter: bpf2, lfo: lfo2 } = bp();
+      chain.push(bpf2);
+      lfo2 && audioNodes.push(lfo2);
     }
   }
 
@@ -684,9 +696,10 @@ export const superdough = async (value, t, hapDuration, cps = 0.5, cycle = 0.5)
     chain.push(panner);
   }
   // phaser
-  if (phaser !== undefined && phaserdepth > 0) {
-    const phaserFX = getPhaser(t, endWithRelease, phaser, phaserdepth, phasercenter, phasersweep);
-    chain.push(phaserFX);
+  if (phaserrate !== undefined && phaserdepth > 0) {
+    const { phaser, lfo } = getPhaser(t, endWithRelease, phaserrate, phaserdepth, phasercenter, phasersweep);
+    audioNodes.push(lfo);
+    chain.push(phaser);
   }
 
   // last gain